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mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 3:47 pm
Edmeilas
Sveiki klubiečiai. Sveikinu visus su ateinančiomis šventėmis.

Turiu tokia bėdą - nesikuria laguna. 1999 m, 1,8 16v benzinas be duju.
Šia mašina važinėja mama ir automobilis visada pedantiškai prižiūrimas. Kuriasi ir važiuoja bet kokiu oru ir prie bet kokios temperatūros. Niekada su laguna jokių bėdų neturėjo- iki dabar. Grįžo užpraeitą penktadienį iš darbo - pastatė automobilį garaže. Sekmadienį sumanė į parduotuvę nuvažiuoti. Automobilis tik iš kelinto vertimo užsikūrė(šiaip kuriasi iš pusės) ir iš karto užgeso. Tolesni bandymai baigėsi akumo nusodinimu(akumuliatorius tikrai geras). Pakrovus akumuliatorių vėl bandyta kurti - iš pradžių lyg bando griebti bet užgesta. Tolesni bandymai - net negriebia. (desningumas - pastovejus automobiliui keletą valandų - bandant užvesti - griebia, bet lyg dirbtu ne visi cilindrai ir iškart užgesta).
Įjungus degimą - girdisi kaip sudirba siurblys.
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Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 4:07 pm
Edvard
Prasidejo bedos ir man. Tai prie to pacio norejau paklaust kur randasi kuro siurblys pas Laguna 1.8 66kw? Po galinemis sedynemis ar po bagazines kylimu?

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 4:23 pm
onice
Po bagazines kilimu.

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 4:27 pm
Edvard
Jei nera siurblio garso ar gali buti kad jisai uzsalo?

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 4:39 pm
Tomazas

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 5:01 pm
Edmeilas
pirma karta girdziu kad duslintuvas uzsaltu :) gal ir imanoma - bet kas ten uzsalti gali? :) pabandysiu rytoj - kaledu ryta :)
O benzino kvapas lyg ir yra :)
na eisiu rytoj ziureti :)

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 5:34 pm
Tomazas
Kondensatas uzsala, kai trumpais atstumais vazineji, jis visas neisgaruoja. Zinok ir as netikejau, bet is bakelio 4l vandens ispylem. Gal pabandyk su ranka pereit per vamzdi, kur ledas bus ten bus salciau, bet tikrink galini bakeli. Paprasciausia ji nusukt butu jei masina garaze ir tada bandyt kur jei uzsikurs tada sildai galini bakeli, aisku gali ir katalizatorius uzsalt jei toks yra. Pagal simtomus manau, kad duslintuvas (laguna)

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Pir Gru 24, 2012 5:54 pm
Edmeilas
Bandysiu :) na mamos max speed 80 ir atstumas iki darbo 10 km - tikiu, kad tas kondensatas galejo susidaryti.

ziuresim - katalizo nera - gal tikrai duslintuvas :) - nors skamba ziauriai juokingai - kaip babinos guolis :)

Ačiū visiems. Linksmų švenčių visiems ir gerų metų Jūsų automobiliukams :)

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Ant Gru 25, 2012 3:53 pm
Edmeilas
Tikrai nenoredamas nieko prajuokinti - greiciausiai bus duslintuvas uzsales (headbang) , pasildzius garaze su sildytuvu - pajudinus duslintuva girdisi kaip vanduo pradejo teliuskuoti :) dar nesikuria - sildom toliau ir bandysim vandeni istraukti nenueme duslintuvo(garaze duobes nera ...)

Jei "gedimas" bus tik toks tada I (Love) (laguna)


Valiooooo (jump) - gedimas rastas :) Ačiū už patarimą :)
Iš tiesų buvo užšalęs kondensatas duslintuve. O SERV ir ABS dege del to kad rankinio kaladeles prisale buvo.

Katik prapučiau 20 km ir nebesigirdi vandens duslintuve :) ir mamos 1,8 16 v važiuoja tikrai smagiai (headbang) su savo 1,9 dci nepagaučiau :roll:

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Gru 26, 2012 8:15 am
Tomazas
Svarbu susitvarke, kai man pasake, kad duslintuvas as tik nusijuokiau, bet kai pasitikrinau visi juokai dingo :mrgreen:

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Gru 26, 2012 11:04 am
Edvard
Ar skiriasi kazkuo kuri siurbliai? Pvz mono ir pilnas ipurskimas, 1.8 ir 2.0 ir pan. Aciu labai, reikia staigiai..

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Gru 26, 2012 11:53 am
qwerty

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Gru 26, 2012 2:08 pm
Edvard
Dekingas. Jau nupirkau nuo 2.0 senesniu metu, truputi korpusas skirtingas buvo, tai teko pati varikliuka perdet ir tiek :) Kada idesiu kaip atrode mano varikliukas :D

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Ant Kov 19, 2013 2:29 pm
LENCAS
Man buvo irgi tas pats bet tik katalizatorius uzsales laguna 1.6l 16v, isardziau viska ir pamaciau ledo gabala is to katalizatoriaus, istirpines ziuru kad ir uzsikises, vienu zodziu pakeiciau ir atsirado dar didesne beda kaip ir edmeilas rase. visi tokie pat simtomai. tik kad va po to pradejo uzpilinet zvakes ir nebeuzsiveda, kibirstis gera, babinos ir purkstukai pakeisti naujais. kokia beda gali cia but?

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Ant Kov 19, 2013 3:19 pm
Tomazas
kai kuri masina paziurek ar nesnypscia prie ismetimo kolektroiaus, jei snypscia tai as itarciau, kad duslintuvas uzsales, nes jei katalyzas buvo uzsales, tai gal but prisikaupe vandens ir galinei puslej ypac vienoj alkunej kuri zemiausiam taske, jei yra galimybe nusuk galine pusle ir tada kurk arba pabandyk atsildyt. O kada tau prasidejo tas nesikurimas?

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Kov 20, 2013 11:58 am
LENCAS
Kai katalizatoriu pakeiciau ir dabar visus minkstus sujungimus naujus sudejau, o galine pusle sausa, buvau isemes ir dziovines, bet nieko nepasikeite. anksciau snypsdavo bet dabar geriausiai praeina dumas kai pakeiciau juos, garazas sildomas yra. Kitur skaiciau kad imobilaizeris gali sudurniuot per salcius ar taip uzeina. Bet tvarkoi yra. Dar speju kad kaskas su elektronika gali but ar net borto kompas susikniso. Ziauriai gaila kad nebenuor uzsikurt, viska ismeginau ir tikrinau, jau nebezinau ka begalvot net (dontknow) . Kas idomiausia kad paduoda benzina ir kibirkstis gera, o kai vedu iskart uzpila zvakes. Tesiog stogas pradejo paciam ciuozt :D auto mechanikas ir pats savo masinos nesusitvarko (verkiu) (verkiu) (verkiu) (verkiu) :D Vadinas nekoks esu :? :mrgreen:

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Kov 20, 2013 12:07 pm
Tomazas
O bent griebt bando? Siaip gali but degima pabeges ir kala skierka ne tada kada reikia. Siaip alkuninio veleno davikli pasitikrink turi varza rodyt 200-270 tame tarpe, bet jei gerai pamenu, kai jis neveikia kura nepaduoda.

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Kov 20, 2013 1:05 pm
LENCAS
Net negrieb, lyg nebutu benzino. Ant buksyro kaska bando bet po puoros gruobimu vel nieko, aplink miesta tampem kelias dienas kanors pakeite ir subinen tie lt eina. Dar meginsu veleno padeties davikli ziuret,tikrinti purkstukus ir temperaturos davikli... kazi ar nuo smarkaus gazinimo ir laikymo negalejo koks laisvos eigos voztuvas sugest ar laisvos eigos daviklis apsinest ar kokia tarpine pramust? Nes kaskaip keistai paliko lyg i tepalus benzina varytu buvo apie 80% tepalo lygio o dabar ziurint atrodo kad 110%. Kas durniausia yra kad nesu susidures dar su tokiom problemom ir nezinau ka bedaryt.

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Kov 20, 2013 1:12 pm
Tomazas
pradzioj zek alkunio davikli, temperaturinis kurimuisi itakos neturi, laisvos eigos voztuvas jei butu tai uzsikurtu ir uzgestu, bet gaza palaikant dirbt variklis, bet jei pas tave negriebia, tai pradzioj zek alkuninio davikli, o del tepalu nieko nepakomentuosiu, neteko susidurt

Re: mistiškas nesikurimas 1,8 16v benzinas

StandartinėParašytas: Tre Kov 20, 2013 1:13 pm
LENCAS
Bet ar gali degimas pabekt ipurskimo sistemos- multipoint, kuro tiekimo sistemos- dohc. 16v 1.6l variklyje? Pagal mane tai kompas valdo viska gaves visus parodimus is davikliu. bet gal as ir klystu nesu jau tiek patyres ir prasikales. Jei buciau neklausineciau :roll: :D